long game

[dustdrive]

i want to know if anybody is up for like a 2 day game all through the night so let me know if your interested in it still need an AO but some where on the east side or toward desert fox a bit let me know thx

[dustdrive]

ok some more details
-so kinda like a camping trip is what me and somes guys want to do so food and lots of water.
-set up a camp and have each team with there own camp all through the night have patrols out and stuff
-party it up out there
-minors will be there so hide ur beer lol
-also a good way for new ppl to come out and see what airsoft and milsim is all about

[Savage]

I'd definitely be up for one, I did a 2.5-day paintball game way up in the rockies a few years ago. It was pretty damn awesome, but something you'll need to stress is keep the continuity of the game. Not like the everyday pickup games, where it always seems one team just spawncamps for 30-45 mins.

[KileyHAZ]

While I admire your initiative and vision I feel compelled to point out that 80%+ of the airsofters on these boards 'fall out' from exhaustion 4 hours into a real milsim event. Due to this continuity will be an issue. Best of luck.

[Savage]

Yeees, we're all fat, old and/or lazy.

[KileyHAZ]

Yeees, we're all fat, old and/or lazy.

Nah, I sincerely feel it has more to do with individual 'drive'. I myself am old and overweight and still manage to pull 8+ hour events on a regular basis by pacing myself and my team mates and having a 'drive' to do what has to be done until my body gives out.

Now, that's not to say I can keep up with some of the younger fit guys when they want to go 'balls out' by any means... In short, watch the next big game in the heat and you can get an idea of who that 'drop out' group is, its a fairly wide mixture of age and fitness levels. Apparently milsim is not like playing Call of Duty on the xbox, who would have thunk it.

[ultimentra]

Totally agree with you there kiley, especially the part about "hey guys its like call of duty IRL". LOL I went all the way through Sic Siemper Tyrannis and Hills Have Eyes until the very end. Its usually people who dress in all black who drop out, thing is you don't wear all black in arizona!! EVER!

[yellow_fever]

Apparently milsim is not like playing Call of Duty on the xbox, who would have thunk it.

No way! You mean I can't dualie a coupla manual shotguns in real life?

[dejavu]

EDIT: Holy crap I had no idea I typed this much.

I think half the reason why people drop out so quickly into longer scenario games is because of poor hydration practices. People don't understand how important it is to be well hydrated before, during, and even after the game. With longer ops/scenarios, this becomes a major factor because there is less down time due to objectives, larger AOs, and the demands made by each squad leader.

I would be 100% down with a multi-day event, though as Kiley points out, and as I have realized through years of hopes for such an event, the prospect of actually making such an event a reality is grim due to the physical demand it makes on each individual.

I think that, were such a thing to be planned, there would need to be certain safeguards scripted into the rules of the event in order to reduce as much risk of this "drop out" as possible. For example, requiring hydration bladders/carriers would be an adequate means of addressing the hydration and "drive" issue.

Mandating an 18+ only rule and enforcing the notion of the event being primarily a MILSIM event and secondarily and airsoft "game" would be one strong step towards filtering the "serious" players from the recreational players. This isn't to say that minors can't hack it, as I know I could at 17, but enforcing an 18+ rule would help reduce the number of drop outs from people who thought they could handle 36+ hours of non-stop scenario play but found that they couldn't make it past hour 12.

One of the biggest problems with such a game is that, due to the "drop out" rate, the game would inevitably start with balanced, large teams, but by the end of the first day or night, a good portion of participants would be "too tired' to go on and would pack it up early, thus leaving the dwindled and unbalanced teams. There's no use in denying this reality because I see it each weekend when, after the second game, anywhere from three to six or seven players leave because of assorted reasons. When I started airsofting as TAC was coming into existence, we played for four-six hours with maybe 2 10-minute breaks tops.

In addition to all of these factors, there are also the issues of mechanical issues and drained batteries. Unless someone is going to take out a rapid charger that can been connected to a car battery, there is no way to eliminate the prospect of dead batteries. In addition to this, there's also the risk of AEG breakage, both from internal problems and from any external problems caused by operator fatigue and low-light conditions (i.e. "I tripped in the dark and landed on my gun and snapped it in half).

This leads me to my last main concern, which is the prospect of playing at night. There would be no point in camping, in my opinion, if gameplay was going to be stopped at night and resumed during the day. If there were to be a multi-day op, it would need to span continuously, with a constant eye-protection requirement except in designated areas.

Once you consider all of these factors, including all of the factors that I am not factoring in due to the fact that I am hungry and want to stop typing, and you begin to realize that actually putting on a camping-type, multi-day operation would be one of the most complicated, frustrating, and potentially disappointing endeavors one could undertake.

Needless to say, if someone could do it (not me!), I would sure as hell sign up, even at the risk of having it all crumble. (this happened with a particularly memorable TAC operation at SASCO back in circa 2006, which involved a torrential downpour that cut the operation down from three days to just one and a half).

[AlexDean]

Honestly, if you want a multi-day game (because you are such a war addict) join the military. In basic training they have dozens of those scenarios they make you endure. don't like it, drop out.